Do You Like to Have the Last Word? The Story of Echo
By Marcy Kennedy (@MarcyKennedy)
Do you always have to have the last word in an argument? Do you know someone who does?
Echo, a mountain nymph in Greek mythology, had to have the last word in everything, and it was her undoing.
Echo was beautiful with a musical voice. People enjoyed hearing her talk. Eventually, this went to her head, and Echo took too much pleasure in having the last word in both arguments and normal conversations.
Greek mythology has two separate stories about how Echo’s unique ability to dominate a conversation became a curse that destroyed her.
In one story, Echo was a pawn, and in the other, she was a hero.
In the first version, Zeus, ruler of Mount Olympus, hired her to distract his wife while he engaged in one of his numerous affairs. Zeus’ wife Hera figured out what Echo was doing and punished her.
In the alternate version, Echo learned that Hera sought to wreak vengeance on the nymphs for the infidelities she believed Zeus had committed with many of them. Echo used her speech to distract Hera until the other nymphs escaped.
Both versions led to the same consequence.
“Because you’ve cheated me,” Hera said, “you forfeit the use of your tongue except to reply. You’ll keep your power to speak the last word, but will never know the relief of speaking the first.”
Hera doomed Echo to repeat forever the last words spoken to her.
Echo felt the sting of this especially when she met and fell in love with Narcissus.
When Narcissus exclaimed in disgust, “I should rather die than let you have me,” all Echo could reply with was a pitiful plea of “Have me.”
After Narcissus broke her heart, Echo wasted away until nothing remained of her but her voice, which continued to haunt caves and mountain cliffs.
The Greeks believed when they called out and heard a reply, it was Echo speaking to them. (Hence the origin of the word echo in our language for when sound reflects back to us.)
Whether Echo had a good reason for it or not, needing to always have the last word doomed her to a sad life. It may not destroy our lives, but it can certainly punch some holes in our relationships. And if we’re not the person who always needs to have the last word but we know someone who does, it’s important to know how to deal with it.
I’m a person who always needs to have the last word. If you’re like me, here’s what I’ve found helps.
Look back at when it started.
I’m very different from a person I was close to growing up. I’m a quiet introvert. He’s a charismatic extrovert. I have a dry, tongue-in-cheek sense of humor. He has a sarcastic, have-the-room-in-stitches-and-hanging-off-his-every-word sense of humor. I’m like the china cup, and he’s like the bull.
When we’d argue, he won by strength of personality alone. He’d talk over me and mock every logical argument I made. I never felt like I won a single disagreement.
As an adult, this translated into me wanting to have the last word in every argument because, subconsciously, I felt like that meant I was heard and respected.
The first step for me toward letting other people sometimes have the last word was recognizing that not everyone was like what I’d experienced. Other people would listen to me and respect my different opinion even if I didn’t have the last word.
Ask yourself, “What am I afraid of?”
As crazy as this might sound at first, I figured out one of the reasons I seek to have the last word is a control issue. I was afraid that if I didn’t have the last word, I was giving up all control of the situation, and that meant all the horrible possibilities I’d imagined were going to come true. Flawed logic, I know.
But if you find you need to control an argument or win an argument, ask yourself what you’re afraid will happen if you lose the argument. Express that to the person you’re arguing with.
If you’re not someone who needs the last word, but you need to deal with someone who is, here are my tips from the other side.
Realize that they probably just want to know that you hear them and respect their opinion. They want to know that you’ll consider their side rather than just walking all over them because you think you know better.
Pick a time when you’re not fighting to talk to them about it. They might not even know they always try to have the last word.
Accept that having the last word doesn’t really mean anything. They didn’t win the argument simply because they had the last word, so don’t let it get under your skin. Be the bigger person.
Give them the last word gracefully. Sometimes you’re going to get tired of arguing. The quickest way to appease a “last worder” is to ask something like “Is there anything else you want to add?”
Don’t assume that someone needs to have the last word just because they win most of the arguments/finish most arguments. Sometimes I’m not actually trying to get in the last word. Sometimes I just see a flaw in the argument just made and want to address it. Having the last word and needing to have the last word are not the same thing. Don’t be too quick to judge someone.
Do you feel the need to always have the last word in an argument? Do you know someone else who does? How do you handle it?
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Oct 29, 2012 @ 11:37:47
I’m not really concerned with having the last word because I’m not much of a competitor. If it’s something that is really important to me, like talking about race and poverty in schools, then I will keep going. But, most things are not worth arguing about to me. If I know I’m right, I don’t really care if anyone aknowledges it. But I know someone who must have the last word all the time. While it doesn’t bother me, I can see it really bothers them. You’ve offered good information that I will share. 🙂
Oct 29, 2012 @ 13:54:38
Thanks 🙂 I never looked at it from the angle of being a competitive person, but I think you’re right. That does play into it.
Oct 29, 2012 @ 13:46:48
This is a tough and interesting question, Marcy. I honestly don’t know the answer. I’d like to say that I don’t feel the need to have the word, but others may beg to differ. LOL
I do know that “discussing” matters when I’m heated isn’t always the wisest idea. When I exercise, write (helps a ton!) or simply think things through, I tend to have better perspective and care less about who’s wrong or right.
Oct 29, 2012 @ 13:53:11
My husband and I have noticed that sometimes if we disagree on something it helps us both to write down our points. That way, we’re able to sit down and go over them together more objectively. It feels more like we’re working on a problem as a team than getting into an argument where someone (cough*me*cough) feels like they need the last word. We both can be very passionate when debating something 🙂
Oct 30, 2012 @ 14:04:45
I’m one of those people who has a hard time dealing with unfinished business. I don’t care who has the last word, I just want it to be said and to move on. My husband has about a ten minute attention span if the conversation is confrontational, so just about the time we really get into a discussion, he needs a time out. I learned that following him around to continue the conversation was pointless, but I was emotionally stuck until I’d had my say. So now I go to the computer and pound out my side of the argument. Two things happen. Number one the emotional baggage gets discharged and number two, when we do get back to the discussion, I’ve crystallized my thinking to the point that hubby usually loves my solution to whatever was the problem.
Oct 30, 2012 @ 14:29:13
That sounds like you’ve found a great solution to the differences in your personality. I’ve noticed that a lot of us who write find it easier to deal with problems if we’re able to put it on paper.
Oct 29, 2012 @ 14:24:11
We have a friend who likes to study late and take a break by texting. She has to have the last word. It doesn’t matter what you say or do, she always sends the last text. Okay, so I’m thinking about staying up one night to keep at it and see how long she can last.
Hmmm, perhaps I should think this over, I could be out gunned here.
Oct 29, 2012 @ 15:30:05
This is me. But the older I get the less it seems to matter. Mostly because I realized I really don’t like the last word feeling all that much anymore. You are right when you say it doesn’t really mean anything. Not that keeping quiet comes easy for me, but over time I imagine it will become more natural. 🙂
Oct 29, 2012 @ 18:35:49
This was me, but I’m much better, I think Marcy. I should probably ask my kids about it. I do know that if I really believe I’m right, it’s harder to let it go…but I’m learning. LOL
much food for thought here. thx
Oct 30, 2012 @ 01:58:12
I noted “last word” wars in some of my texting. Some friends always text back no matter what I write. Solution? 🙂
Now if we could just figure out a way to make a smiley face during a conversation.
Oct 30, 2012 @ 17:29:20
Haha. The best solution to that is to put your phone out of ear shot and don’t reply to their text 🙂 Some people feel they have to reply to be polite (it happens with email conversations too sometimes).
Imagine if we could add a whole range of emoticons to our conversations 😀
Oct 30, 2012 @ 10:39:19
I’m not very argumentative person and if the conversation gets heated, I tend to give in for peace’s sake unless the matter is really important to me.
My stubborn 3 year old daughter fits your criteria. She wants to have the last word and be right at all times. I’ll try applying some of your tips to see if I can soothe her better. I don’t want to leave her with totally wrong conclusions when she is still learning about the world but I don’t want to rile her up either.
Oct 30, 2012 @ 16:21:24
I HATE confrontation and tend to turtle – so whether someone wants the last word or not they up with it so I have to say I’ve never really noticed this about people before. lol
I refuse to argue – won’t do it. Unless I’m really really passionate about the subject or issue at hand, I will clam up and walk away instead. Not the most healthy response, but I’m better than I was. I can work things out now if given enough time and there’s no heat in the conversation.
Oct 30, 2012 @ 17:26:48
This is one area where our personalities really differ. I’m very much a “resolution” person. If there’s a problem, I want to dig in and hash it out and fix it (assuming I care about the person – if I don’t care about them then I don’t push at all). I can’t rest with issues unresolved. It throws me all off kilter.
Oct 30, 2012 @ 21:38:45
Your post was very thought provoking, so I waited to comment.
Marcy, I thought you were talking about me when you described yourself. Freaky and cool 🙂
I’ve learned to keep my big trap shut, unless it’s a life or death situation. Haven’t been any of those, yet.
But I do like to have the last word when I’m emailing someone. LOL
You’d make the perfect marriage counselor.
Great advice!
Oct 30, 2012 @ 22:52:03
It depends on the situation. If it’s an argument, I’m more likely to shut up and walk away. If it’s a debate that’s going well, it doesn’t matter who has the last word. If it’s a debate where the other person is SO adamant that they’re right, I’ll walk away. It’s not worth the stress they cause in their quest to be the expert.
Oct 31, 2012 @ 01:31:51
There was an episode of M*A*S*H where Hawkeye had to have the last word. He went to extreme lengths to get it,nearly costing a friendship. Even when he was aware of it and didn’t want to, he couldn’t seem to stop the compulsion.
I have begun to focus on reminding myself and other family members to consider their goals when conflict arises. It’s especially handy with the children, ages 8 and 11, and I hope that, by practicing this now, they will have a leg up as they grow.
When I need the last word, I think it is because of a wounded and stuck place within me. It’s becoming a sign for me to slow down, get quiet, ponder, write, and ponder.
It’s still a difficult thing to bring myself out of this pattern, but I am learning, and i keep trying.
Nov 02, 2012 @ 03:36:59
Umm. I’m a recovering attorney. Some days, I’m more recovered than others. My teens, however, outdo me. They’ve taught me how annoying I can be, and I’ve been making a conscious effort to let things go. Sometimes, I succeed. 🙂